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Posted Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:24:25 GMT by Edmund Johnson
Self assessment online for 2019-20: I received employment income and paid tax on it in the Netherlands. I am a UK resident. I enter the overseas income (but not the tax) in the Employment section. I enter the overseas income, tax already paid overseas and country (NLD) in the Foreign section. However, the tax calculation does not take into account the tax already paid. I have not gone beyond 'View your calculation'. I have a (perhaps incorrect) memory that the Foreign section for the 2018-19 Self Assessment had a checkbox "Do you wish to claim Foreign Tax Credit Relief", but I cannot see any such checkbox for 2019-20. How can I complete the online Self Assessment without being double charged tax on overseas income? Thank you.
Posted Tue, 04 Aug 2020 15:59:44 GMT by HMRC Admin 8
 Hello, 
When you are completing the foreign employment section this is automatically a claim for foreign tax credit relief so there is no option to choose here.
Before you come to view your calculation it should bring you to a page telling you how it has calculated your foreign tax credit relief due.
Please make sure that at the bottom of the foreign page you add the details in then it should calculate it for you.
Regards,
Posted Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:58:22 GMT by Edmund Johnson
Thank you for your response, it's useful to know what I should be seeing. However, I do not see a page telling me how it has calculated my foreign tax credit relief due. When I click on 'View your calculation', it just displays the calculation which doesn't take into account tax already paid. Perhaps the page you are referring to (telling me how it has calculated my foreign tax credit relief due) is meant to be displayed earlier. When I go into the 'Change overseas employment and self-employment' section, and click on 'Save and continue', it gets "stuck" and re-displays the same page. Is this where I should see the page you are referring to? Are there any other questions which affect whether this page is displayed which I could be answering incorrectly? e.g. I answer No to the question “Do you wish to claim Foreign Tax Credit Relief on Capital Gains”, because my foreign income was from employment rather than capital gains. Thanks again.
Posted Thu, 06 Aug 2020 08:09:17 GMT by HMRC Admin 8
 Hello,
When you are on the overseas employment and self employment page you should be able to scroll to the bottom and see a summary section.

This should be there if you have added your details correctly. If you have, the screen should not stick when you try to continue.

I am also assuming that you are being charged UK tax on the foreign employment income? The foreign tax credit relief is only given against the tax we are charging.

If you are still having issues I would suggest that you contact our helpline and someone will be able to support you through this submission:
Self Assessment: general enquiries

Regards,
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:30:36 GMT by Edmund Johnson
Hi, thank you for the link to Self Asssessment: general enquiries. Unfortunately, it always says "All of our advisers are busy at the moment. You can remain on this page and one may become available." Is there any chance you can be more specific about "This should be there if you have added your details correctly." I believe I have added my details correctly, and I am becoming concerned because I don't see a way to resolve this, and I don't want to and can't afford to pay more than £15,000 of tax twice. Yours, Edmund
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:41:32 GMT by Edmund Johnson
With regards to your question "I am also assuming that you are being charged UK tax on the foreign employment income?", I was paying tax in the Netherlands through the Dutch umbrella company which was paying me. Should I even declare this income on my UK tax return? I have answered the Employment questions as follows: - 1. Pay from this employment – the total from your P45 or P60 – before tax was taken off: [I entered my earned amount here, converted to GBP] - 2. UK tax taken off pay in box 1: [I have left this blank]
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 12:11:17 GMT by Edmund Johnson
Also, I answered 'No' to "Do you wish to claim Foreign Tax Credit Relief on Capital Gains" in the "Tailor your return" section. Should I have answered 'Yes' to this question? (my income was from employment rather than capital gains).
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:16:59 GMT by HMRC Admin 10
Hi

Without being able to see exactly what you have put in it is very difficult to provide a more accurate response on this forum.

You would be best discussing this with an adviser either through the webchat or by calling us.

Thankyou.

Regards.
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:19:00 GMT by HMRC Admin 10
Hi

If you are resident in the UK for the tax year in question, yes you should be declaring this employment income.

The only time you would not declare is if you were not resident in the UK and you were working outside of the UK for a non-UK based company.

Thankyou.

Regards.
Posted Tue, 18 Aug 2020 16:22:10 GMT by HMRC Admin 10
Hi

That is correct you are not claiming against Capital Gains so your response would be no.

Thankyou.

Regards.
Posted Sun, 10 Jan 2021 02:06:10 GMT by agelosd
I Self assessment online for 2019-20: I received employment income and paid tax on it in Greece. I am a UK resident. I face a similar problem. When I fill the 2nd page of Foreign and after 1. ticking "Employment, self-employment and other income which you paid foreign tax on" 2. Entering Country, Foreign tax paid, Taxable amount and then clicking "Save and continue" 3. The system does not proceed on the next page, it remains in the same one without any red warning, just a message near the top of the screen saying "You must also complete either the Employment, Self-employment or Partnership pages if you have foreign tax paid on employment, self-employment or partnership income. Please return to 'Tailor your return' if you need to add in these pages." I have already added the information about the employment in Greece and the income gained there Could you please advise how to resolve this? Your help will be greatly appreciated Angelos
Posted Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:00:57 GMT by HMRC Admin 2
Hi,

When you have income from employment in another country, this is regarded as employment income and must be recorded in the employment section.  

In tailor your return where it asks if you were an employee, you say yes. In the employment section you enter only the amount of income earned in Greece, no tax, reference 000/none and the name of the employer.  

You are then using the foreign section to claim tax credit relief against the amount of income already taxed.  

If you add the employment section in and enter the details as stated, you will then be able to save and move on. 

Thank you.
Posted Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:08:19 GMT by Edmund Johnson
Hi Angelos, HMRC finally gave me a solution. It is extremely unintuitive, as they admitted, and I wasn't the only person to call them about it. Here are the notes I made at the time, hope it helps. At the bottom of the 'Foreign income types' page, do NOT press "Save and continue". Instead, press "Add" (totally non-intuitive), then the same page is re-displayed with blank fields, but also with the foreign employment at the bottom. Select the radio button, then click on "Save and continue". Now a different page is displayed, where the following can be entered: - Taxed UK interest etc - Untaxed UK interest etc - Untaxed foreign interest (up to £2000) Edmund

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