Skip to main content

This is a new service – your feedback will help us to improve it.

Posted Mon, 13 May 2024 08:30:31 GMT by Sam Blanning
Hi, An individual is taking a large defined benefit pension in the current tax year. The pension commencement lump sum will be partly over their remaining lump sum allowance, and therefore taxable as income as a "pension commencement excess lump sum". Does this taxable excess need to be included in their “net income” when calculating their tapered annual allowance for 2024/25? (I have previously asked this question, but at the time it could not be answered as we were not yet in 2024/25.)
Posted Thu, 16 May 2024 09:02:15 GMT by HMRC Admin 25 Response
Hi Sam Blanning,
Please refer to guidance here:
Work out your reduced (tapered) annual allowance
Thank you. 
Posted Thu, 16 May 2024 09:56:31 GMT by Sam Blanning
Thanks for the quick response. I've looked through the guidance and I can't see whether a pension commencement excess lump sum would be included as net income?
Posted Mon, 20 May 2024 14:26:43 GMT by HMRC Admin 19 Response
Hi,

The taxable element of the pension commencement lump sum, which is taxable, would be entered in box 11 for pensions. This will be included to work out your net income. You can see more information at page 7 of the following guidance:

How to fill in your tax return

Thank you.
Posted Mon, 20 May 2024 15:21:44 GMT by Sam Blanning
So if I understand correctly, pension commencement excess lump sums *do* now affect the tapered annual allowance calculation. Unlike in 2023/24 (per HMRC's answer to https://community.hmrc.gov.uk/customerforums/pt/70f72f4f-66eb-ee11-a81c-6045bd0df281), or in previous years when Lifetime Allowance excess lump sums were not subject to income tax.
Posted Thu, 23 May 2024 09:32:14 GMT by HMRC Admin 19 Response
Hi,

You can see guidance here:

Work out your reduced (tapered) annual allowance

Thank you.

You must be signed in to post in this forum.