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Posted Sat, 28 Dec 2024 16:10:27 GMT by Davidjl
Hi I invested £150k in a bond 10 yrs ago and made no withdrawals during this time. This year March 2024 I had to withdraw £95k out. I received a chargeable event certificate from the company in March 24, which I forwarded to HMRC. During Dec 24 I received a letter from HMRC informing me that my chargeable event income gain was above £10000, I would now be required to complete a self assessment tax form. My question is what do I have to pay tax on:- 1) Amount of gain arising from this event is £32k 2) Notional tax is £6.5k I am a 20% tax payer with state pension and private pension well below the 40% tax bracket. Is it 20% of the £6.5K and how do I include this on the SAT form as Ive never filled in one before Regards
Posted Wed, 08 Jan 2025 12:38:04 GMT by HMRC Admin 18 Response
Hi Davidjl,
Unfortunately, it is not possible to check individual tax records through this forum, if you have a question which relates to your personal tax situation or tax code please contact our helpline:  
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On this page you will also see a link to:
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which may be the quickest way to review information relating to pay and tax history, tax codes and how to change them. 
Alternatively, you may wish to engage the services of a professional advisor/accountant to assist with your enquiry. 
Thank you.

   
Posted Wed, 08 Jan 2025 14:53:17 GMT by maxb
Hi Davidjl, It sounds like you may have an investment bond structured as a single premium life insurance policy, which is entitled to "notional tax treated as paid" - that is, a tax credit based on the investment company having paid tax over the course of the investment, which entitles you to pay less tax on the gain now. However, do remember that this is just a guess I'm making based on your word choices in an anonymous forum post, and you should satisfy yourself it does actually apply to you, or take professional advice. Unfortunately the tax situation is quite complicated to understand. However, if you are filling in your tax return online, provided you track down all the right boxes, it should do all the calculations for you. First, to run through why it is so complicated: 1) You have made a gain of £32k - this is £32k of extra income on top of the rest of your income for the year. 1a) If the +£32k does not put you into higher rate tax, things are actually simple. You're taxed at 20% on the gain, but you have 20% "notional tax treated as paid" on the gain which exactly offsets this. You pay no extra tax. 1b) But +£32k is an amount that could easily put someone with other income into higher rate tax. If so, you pay 40% tax on the portion of the gain in the higher rate band. The 20% "notional tax treated as paid" covers half of it. 2) It's not ideal that you are being taxed all in one year on gains built up over 10 years... and there is a relief, called "top-slicing relief" which may apply. It applies if the total bond gain pushes you into higher rate, but one-tenth (based on it being a gain over 10 years) does not. The calculation is hard but the website should do it for you. Which brings us back to filling in the website form... To find the relevant boxes: In "tailor your return" say yes to "other UK income... life insurance gains" In the "other income" section that unlocks, say yes to "Gains from life insurance policies" On the subsequent pages report the gain (£32k) and the number of years involved. Now finish off the rest of the return, and hopefully the calculation it displays at the end will make sense, given the rest of my message!

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