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Posted Tue, 01 Apr 2025 23:12:31 GMT by Levent Aksu
Hi,
I have filled my 2023-2024 tax-return online through self-assessment.
This is the 2nd time I have filled a tax return in this country so I am still not feeling solid about some of the concepts and scared to death to make a mistake which would cost me later as an unexpected expense.
After submitting my return the system calculated me some substantial amount of overpaid tax. This sounds reasonable because I have experienced a dismissal followed by a non-working period.
Anyway, I applied for collecting the overpayment but it has not happened for a long while. I have waited for the time they stated to ask for an explanation and finally got an adviser on online chat. She said there looked some extra payment from the employment that ended with dismissal. Long story short, I was able to figure out what was wrong in there. Because of a dismissal I have received a P45 right after leaving them. After P45, when the quarter finished, I received some extra payment because of the quarterly bonus.
This arrived with a payslip and is taxed.
When filling my return I have put the amount from the P45 and never realised the later payment was not in it.
The adviser said: - well if you amend your return to correct the figure and include the underpayment in the return where it asks for any underpayments included in 23/24 tax code them you should be able to try and claim again it takes 72 hours to update
Me: is it termed as "any underpayment"s section ? - yes it will be near the end when it asks for bank details the underpayment is what you need and it And she hanged up.
I need to amend my return but I cannot figure out where the "underpayments" near bank details are.
It gives me options to amend an income and/or amend sections but I could not exactly say where I should add this extra payment.
Thanks.
Posted Thu, 03 Apr 2025 22:12:13 GMT by maxb
Hi.
I'm just a member of the public, but I think this "adviser" has completely misunderstood and given you entirely incorrect information.
I know the underpayments boxes that are being referred to here, and they are strictly for when tax due in respect of one tax year, ends up being collected via pay deductions in a different tax year.
I am assuming from the way you wrote your post, that both the P45 and the later payment occurred between 6th April 2023 and 5th April 2024.
In that case, it seems like a simple case of additional payment received after issue of a P45.
The explanatory notes for form SA102 (the paper version of the employment part of the online tax return, which can be found at Self Assessment: Employment (SA102) this case: >
If you received any payments after your employer gave you a P45 or P60, these should also be included in box 1. The "box 1" referred to is "Pay from this employment". Therefore, we have an official document saying that the correct way to fill in - or, in this case, amend - your tax return is to add up the total pay from your P45 and later payslip, and include the sum in the section of the return about this employment.
Similarly, you would also add up the tax already deducted from your P45, and from the later payslip, for the next box.
So, you need to amend the figures you have already entered in the employment section - not add anything in any new sections/boxes.
Posted Wed, 09 Apr 2025 12:50:00 GMT by Levent Aksu
Hi maxb, To me, that looked like the most reasonable action to take too. Many thanks
Posted Wed, 09 Apr 2025 12:50:17 GMT by HMRC Admin 13 Response
Hi Levent Aksu
Thank you maxb for your helpful post.
HMRC is unable to provide specific or tailored advice through the Online Community Forums and cannot comment on any form of calculation, example or scenario as we may not be in possession of all the relevant information. 
The HMRC Customer Forum is for general queries only and is intended to help our customers self-serve. We are unable to provide financial advice or further interpretation of the guidance provided on GOV.UK.
Additionally, it is not possible to check individual tax records through this forum. 
Guidance on completing your tax return is available at 
•    How to complete your tax return for Self Assessment – SA100 tax return (2024)
•    Self Assessment: Employment (SA102) – Employment notes (2024)
The box in your online return titled “Amount of underpaid tax for earlier years included in your tax code for 2023-24” should be completed
If you still require further assistance you can contact us through  Self Assessment: general enquiries.
Thank you
 

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