Remko Schooneveld
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RE: Unable to request an S1 form with the Frontier Worker Permit status
Thank you for the reply, It is clear to me that the CA8421 does cover S1 applications. However, as a person who has been fully employed by a British company since January 2006 AND who has been paying NI contributions in the UK ever since AND who continued to live in The Netherlands (EU Member State), I am covered by the Withdrawal Agreement. AND who was still working for the same British Company at the time of the end of the Transition Period; I have obtained the legal status of Frontier Worker as part of the Withdrawal Agreement. As part of that Frontier Worker status I think I am entitled to the S1 form because of my UK NI contributions (like I have been ever since I started working in the UK since 2006). From your own website: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/social-security-contributions-for-workers-coming-to-the-uk-from-the-eea-or-switzerland#coming-to-work-in-the-uk---from-the-eu It states: "You will usually pay social security contributions (National Insurance in the UK) in the country you are working in." And from my Frontier Worker Permit: "Public funds condition Frontier worker status entitles you to access benefits and services, including NHS-funded healthcare, provided you meet the relevant eligibility requirements. You will need to check with the relevant authorities in your home country about whether they are responsible for your healthcare costs in the UK. You may be eligible for an S1 certificate as a frontier worker if you have worked and paid contributions in an EEA country or Switzerland." That confirms we are covered by social security provisions of the EU Withdrawal Agreement. Therefore, it is my understanding that it gives me the right to apply for an S1 certificate from the UK government. You state: "The application CA8421 does cover S1 applications for the individual, when selecting whether you have the right to work in the UK you would select yes if you have UK immigration status or a visa which allows you to seek and complete employment in the UK." Now we come to your point about selecting "YES" if I have an immigration status or a visa... The CA8421 form has the following question: What type of right to work do you have in the UK? We use these details to check which social security arrangements apply. • EUSS status *This is settled or pre-settled EUSS status. • Leave to remain or • I do not have a right to work in the UK What would I select here as a Frontier Worker who is covered by the Withdrawal Agreement? A Frontier Workers Permit It is NOT the same as Settled or Pre-Settled EUSS Status to my knowledge. Nor is it Leave To Remain. Then there is the last option, "I do not have the right to work in the UK", that isn't correct either as I DO have the right to work in the UK. What option/answer does a person covered by the Withdrawal Agreement in possession of a Frontier Worker Permit, who has up to now always been entitled to a S1 certificate, select on this page to continue the process in a truthful non-fraudulent manner? Or, are you now saying that a Frontier Worker in no longer covered by the Withdrawal Agreement and therefore is no longer entitled to a S1 certificate? I'm looking forward to reading your reply, which hopefully clarifies this situation permanently. Kind regards, Remko Schooneveld P.s. maybe somebody has just forgotten the to put the option of "• Frontier Worker Permit" in the list of Right to Work in the UK? -
Unable to request an S1 form with the Frontier Worker Permit status
Hi all, After reading through several bits of this forum I thought I'd post a more specific thread regarding this subject. As the subject indicates, this is about requesting an S1 form for those of us who have the "Frontier Worker Permit" that allows us to work in the UK whilst living in the EU. This status, is parallel to the "EUSS" and "Leave To Remain" and from a healthcare point of view it grants the same access to the S1 documents for us to receive healthcare abroad. Personally, I am employed in the UK since 2016 and have always received the S1 form. I am no expert but I can't see why that suddenly would be any different. The NHS website still refers us to the CA8454 form, but that form isn't applicable anymore due to some changes that have been made. Information on this forum seems to suggest that the new correct form would be the CA8421 form titled "Apply for a certificate to confirm you will pay UK National Insurance while working in multiple countries". However, there are two issues with that form: 1) I do not work in multiple countries. I only work in the UK (but live in the EU). 2) The question: "What type of right to work do you have in the UK?" is missing the correct category of "Frontier Worker Permit" Considering the possible legal implications it might have for not truthfully completing this form we are unable to proceed at this point. it is definitely an avenue I do not want to explore. So the question remains: Which form do people with a "Frontier Worker Permit" fill out to request the S1 form we need for our healthcare abroad? The number of people affected by this sudden change of form is growing rapidly and we can do with an appropiate response in order for us to continue to receive our healthcare. Kind regards,