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  • RE: How to Pay Voluntary National Insurance Contributions from Abroad

    Hello, I am filling the form to apply for national insurance contribution abroad. When I ask to fill it entirely online, and I fill my government gateway IDs in, it errors and tells me I cannot continue filling the flow because that flow cannot be filled by organisations. I am not an organisation, I am an individual. Those IDs work for other types of services linked to my person. Is this a bug, or is the error message wrong and what it actually is is that it's not possible to fill this form online for anyone, we all must fill it online and then print and send it?
  • RE: How to Pay Voluntary National Insurance Contributions from Abroad

    Hello, I am a French national. I have lived and worked in the UK for 12 years (2011 to 2003), and have 12 full years of NI contribution. I'm now back in France with no intention to come back to the UK. I am now paying French NI contributions and will continue to do so until I retire. My question: should I make voluntary NI contributions in the UK every year until I have paid for a 35 years total, on top of the French NI contributions I am already making? I can't figure out if making NI contributions both in France and in the UK at the same time will: a) Mean that when I retire, both countries will look at years I contributed on both sides and simply pay me the difference (so for (a very simplified) example, if what I should earn from paying NI solely in France for a year is £100 and what I should earn in solely paying in the UK is £110, I'll get paid £100 from france + £10 to make sure I get the full £110). b) OR Mean that when I retire, France will pay me my pension for all the years I contributed there, and the UK will pay me the full state pension on top of that? If a) is true, then continuing paying UK national contributions each year is useless, as I am already paying towards French pension. In that case paying the remaining £900-ish x 23 = £20700 is wasted money. However if b) is true, then continuing to pay for the UK state pension on top of the French one makes a lot of sense, as I would get my full French state pension + those £20700 will allow me to get my full UK pension of £11541 on top. I keep reading about cases where someone pays in one country and then in another, but I can't find a concrete example or a rule explaining what happens if I pay in the two countries at the same time! I've looked everywhere to try and find an answer without being able to figure this out, so hoping you can help me understand! Many thanks.