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Posted Tue, 25 Jun 2024 13:35:47 GMT by harvshow B
Thanks HMRC for the guidance. Just to clarify as I wasn't sure if settlement legislation would apply - as my wife would be the beneficial owner of 60% of the property (capital and income), she should declare the income on her self assessment tax return. I as the legal owner but beneficial owner of 40% would declare 40% of the income on my tax return. Thanks.
Posted Fri, 28 Jun 2024 07:56:52 GMT by HMRC Admin 21
Hi harvshow B,
Thank you for your question.
Most types of trusts now need to be registered with HMRC via the Trust Registration Service. You can find guidance on the registration requirements and how to register at: Register a trust as a trustee.
If both entitlement to the income and the property are in unequal shares, a Form 17 election can be made to allow profits or losses to be split according to their actual share of ownership in the property.
For further information, please see: Declare beneficial interests in joint property and income.
Thank you.
Posted Fri, 28 Jun 2024 10:52:55 GMT by HMRC Admin 21
Hi harvshow B,
As long as HMRC have been advised of the alternative split and you have your acknowledgement then yes it will be declared as per the beneficial ownership.
Thank you.
 
Posted Mon, 01 Jul 2024 06:12:10 GMT by TL827
Hi, I'm a UK resident, and this is regarding a joint account I intend to open with my brother (who is not a UK resident), in an overseas bank. I understand that under normal circumstances, I would be liable to tax on 50% of the gains (interest and dividend income, and capital gains tax when an asset in the portfolio is sold). However, we wish to alter this arrangement such that I pay tax (in the UK) on the entire 100% of the gains instead of the 50/50 split. I understand that this can be achieved if we prepare a valid declaration of trust, in order to indicate that while we are both legal owners, beneficial ownership will be solely in my name. My questions are; 1) I believe a Form 17 is not required, as we are not spouses. Is this correct? 2) Should I keep the declaration of trust document in my possession until I am asked for it by HMRC, or does it need to be posted to HMRC? 3) Am I correct in understanding that this type of arrangement does not require registration, such as with the Trust Registration Service? 4) Am I correct in understanding that the only impact this will have on my self-assessment is the increase in reported gains (to 100% of gains instead of 50%)? My specific concerns are whether there will be any additional impact on the types of tax due, the tax structure, or the need to fill out any additional forms? Thank you

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