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Posted Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:40:20 GMT by Walt King
Some time ago our UK accountants told us that the UK/HK double tax agreement had been dissolved and we have suspended dividend payments back to the UK parent company for some time while we figure out how to deal with it. But I have searched the web including IRD and gov.uk sites and there is no indication that this has happened. Is it true that the Agreement no longer exists?
Posted Sun, 08 Dec 2024 12:53:49 GMT by Walt King
Perhaps I did not explain clearly enough. We are a family company in the UK which set up a subsidiary in Hong Kong some years ago to ease export trade to China and Hong Kong. Profits were annually returned via the UK company for shareholders taking advantage of the Double Tax agreement. A few years ago our accountants in the UK told us that the UK government had torn up the agreement. We have been unable to solve the problem and the profit has since been left accumulating in the Hong Kong company bank account. Last week I did some web searches and as far as I can see from both HMRC and IRD the agreement is still in place. I would like some confirmation or otherwise as to whether that is true.
Posted Mon, 09 Dec 2024 13:46:11 GMT by HMRC Admin 17 Response

Hi ,
 
The treaty still exists and can be found at :

Hong Kong: tax treaties    .

Thank you .
Posted Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:06:20 GMT by HMRC Admin 20 Response
Hi,
The tax treaty between the UK and Hong Kong, can be found at Hong Kong: tax treaties.  
It is still in place, this treaty should be used in relation to your business.
Thank you.
Posted Fri, 13 Dec 2024 23:47:40 GMT by Walt King
Thank you for your replies. I have put them to our accountants Darnells of Newton Abbot, Devon, and they insist that the Double Tax treaty does not apply to to us. Here is their reasoning. ……………………………………………... The issue is not that there is no UK/HK Double Tax treaty or that it is no longer effective, but that the treaty of 2010 which was attached to my email of 3 July does not contain an appropriate “non-discrimination” provision. Please note that the UK/HK Double Tax treaty is separate from the UK/China Double Tax treaty which does contain an appropriate “non-discrimination” provision. In the absence of an appropriate “non-discrimination” provision, any dividends paid from Hong Kong to a “Small” company under the Companies Act in the UK will be liable to corporation tax in the hands of DS UK (subject to the possible deduction of any withholding tax paid in Hong Kong). The UK Government has been aware of the issue with the UK/HK Double Tax treaty for many years, but has never amended the treaty. Finally, I would point out that we have checked the tax with a tax expert, who agreed with our conclusions.  I have pointed out that Article 22 is titled "Non Discrimination.” Is there some defect with the wording?
Posted Tue, 17 Dec 2024 09:11:05 GMT by Walt King
The ending there is my comment to you: "I have pointed out that Article 22 is titled Non Discrimination. Is there some defect with the wording?" I have since pointed out to the accountants that the UK/HK and UK/China Double Tax treaties' Non Discrimination articles are virtually identical so if one is active then so must be the other. If that is correct, I would appreciate a statement from you to that effect. Thank you.
Posted Fri, 20 Dec 2024 13:31:23 GMT by HMRC Admin 32 Response
Hi,
We cannot comment on what your accountant has stated or that there has been no change to the tax treaty.
Should you wish to discuss further you will need to contact us direct.
Thank you.
Posted Fri, 20 Dec 2024 14:37:00 GMT by Walt King
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