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Posted Mon, 03 Jul 2023 10:21:38 GMT by
My Government Gateway ID is linked to a dissolved company with old VAT ID and consequently, I am unable to submit VAT for a new number I am unable to access. I have been sent 3 default Noticies for not submitting VAT and HMRC Telephone helpline was unable to help as I do not know the effective date of the VAT registration. What can I do to rectify this situation and avoid the default VAT liability and have my Government ID linked to the correct company?
Posted Mon, 03 Jul 2023 15:29:23 GMT by Jay Cooke
You need to set up a new government gateway for the new company. https://www.access.service.gov.uk/login/signin/creds scroll down past the green "sign in" button and click the link for "create sign in details" The "old" gateway will still exist for the "old"/dissolved company because of historical record purposes. You cannot add new VAT numbers to that old gateway. HMRC do not give the date of registration out over the phone, you can ask them to issue a copy of the VAT certificate in the post, this will only be sent to the registered address of the new business. You will not be able to create a new gateway unless you know the date of registration, so request a copy, wait for the post and then sign up for a new gateway. Dates of registration are not given out over the phone to prevent fraud, copies of VAT certificate will only be sent to address used for the VAT registration, again, to protect from fraud....what might appear frustrating is there to protect.
Posted Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:20:45 GMT by HMRC Admin 19 Response
Hi,

If you can access the old account you can remove the old VAT number from that account under add or remove service and you can add your new VAT number or you can set up a new account for the new VAT number.  

Your date of registration will be on your certificate. If you do not have your certificate please ccontact our VAT team and they can oder one for you.

VAT: general enquiries

Thank you.
Posted Fri, 04 Oct 2024 08:46:56 GMT by Emily Powell
Hi, Our clients have a trust which is having new trustees appointed, as the previous trustees were a company which has gone into administration. We have discussed the trust register being updated to the new trustees once the deed of appointment is signed, however the dissolved company administrators confirmed they previously registered the trust with an agent's government gateway and that we would have to make our own. They confirmed that to obtain the new government gateway, we would have to provide HMRC with a copy of the Deed of Appointment and retirement. Please can you confirm if this is correct, despite the result being the same trust registered twice on TRS? Please could you also confirm the procedure for this. Many thanks, Emily Powell Thanks
Posted Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:30:09 GMT by HMRC Admin 20 Response
Hi Emily,
The trustees would need to claim the trust to gain access.  
If the original trustee did not do that then, the new trustees are free the create a new GGID to claim the trust but they would need the details of the old trustees.  
If for whatever reason they do not have and can not get the old trustees details, i.e. name, UTR and or address then HMRC can update the register with the new trustees
and remove the old one if provided with a copy of the Deed of Appointment and retirement.
The new trustees would then be able to claim the trust.
There would still only be one trust record. 
Thank you.

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