CF83 Application with a Temporary NINO?

I'm helping someone do CF83 who worked in UK for 3+ years but they only ever had a Temporary National (TN) Insurance number. What extra info should they provide to ensure they're found by HMRC on the system or will there be any issues with just applying with a TN? Thanks

Hi,

We would advise that they should apply for a full National Insurance Number before applying to pay any voluntary contributions.  

They can do this via the link below:  

Apply for a National Insurance number

Thank you.

Thank you. If they left the UK 30 years ago, can they still get a NINO now?

Hi 
I can confirm that if a person has been employed or self-employed in the UK and National Insurance contributions have been paid then they will require a National Insurance Number in order for these contributions to be recorded in their favour.  
They may still apply for a National Insurance Number whatever length of time they have been overseas.
Thank you.

Thanks - Can they apply NOW if they are overseas NOW?

Hi,
You should write to our International Team and provide them with copies of your P60s or payslips which show National Insurance contributions have been deducted from their salary.  
You would ask to be registered for a National Insurance Number and advise the period that you lived in the UK.
Our postal address is:-
HM Revenue & Customs
PT Operations North East England
BX9 1AN
United Kingdom
Thank you.

Thanks - will that new NINO issued have the correct NI record from 30 years ago? Noone has all their payslips from then so how do you ensure it has the correct NI record? Otherwise there's no point in getting a NINO now....

Hi,
When the individual receives their National Insurance Number then they should write to us with details of their periods of employment in the UK – such as name and address of the employers and the period of each employment.  We will then be able to try to trace any missing National Insurance contributions.  If they could find any of their payslips or P60s for that period then that would be helpful.
Thank you.

Thanks Last Q - A client who lives abroad but previously paid NI and only has a Temp no does not have a UK address. Can they be issued with a NINO now - as per above - if they do NOT have a current UK address? They have been advised they much have a UK address - which obviously defeats the purpose of the exercise...

Hi,

As your client has had National Insurance contributions deducted from their salary, then they should send us copies of their P60s or payslips and our International Team will be able to provide them with a full National Insurance Number and allocate the contributions that they’ve already paid.

Our postal address is:  

HM Revenue & Customs,
PT Operations North East England,
BX9 1AN,
United Kingdom

Thank you.

Hi HMRC Admin, I'm in the exact same situation : I would like to get my personal contribution to National Insurance with the form PDU1. But I need to provide my NI number. I worked in the UK between 04/1996 and 12/2004 but never given a NI number. Instead on my payslips/P60/P45 I have temporary number. - I have register at HMRC and got a Government Gateway user ID, but to confirm registration it is requesting information that does not validate any NI number. - I asked with the form CA5403 to recover my NI with all details, but they replied that they can't as I don't have a NI nulber and should request one. - But to apply for a NI nulmber it says on HMRC: "You can apply for a National Insurance number if you: -live in the UK -have the right to work in the UK -are working, looking for work or have an offer to start work" I don't comply any of these points. In May I did get a response: "HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has received the additional information needed to issue a statement of your National Insurance record. If we need any further details, we'll contact you by letter or phone. We may ask you to sign in to a service to provide more details but we won't ask for your personal details by email." But no response after that. So I wrote to this below address as advised with all documents (payslips, p60, P45...), but without any result. International Caseworker National insurance contributions & Employer office HMRC BX9 1AN This time I did not get any confirmation. Thx for your support Regards LB

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Hi Luc,
You can apply for a PDU1, without a National Insurance number, by applying by post.
You can use the below link to apply under the heading ‘Other ways to apply’, you will complete the application form online and will need to print and post it along with any supporting evidence to the address given at the end of the form.
Get a PDU1 certificate or a National Insurance contributions statement
Thank you.
 

Hi Admin, I have already filled in a CA3916 v2.0 in the past with no success. I managed to talk to someone at PT Operations who said somebody will look deeper into my case (ICW-EU-DMS-U1000070558530) They should have P60/P45/Playslips... Hope it will come to a conclusion. Thx

Hi John King, Were you able to get a NINO for the person you needed the CF83 with temporary number only ? Thx Luc

Hi Admin, In another thread I was told to write to the below address to get that statement of NI contribution, I will do so. To be continued... International Caseworker National insurance contributions & Employer office HMRC BX9 1AN

Luc - Not resolved yet. I've a few cases pending but am yet to see any successful outcome. John