Johnny King

A client was recently rejected for Class 2 NICs. Has 10 years on her NI record. She worked abroad from 2006 until 2020. She has not worked since. Q - Must a person be currently employed abroad in order to get Class 2 from 2006 until they stopped working 4 years ago? My understanding is that she is eligible to pay Class 2 from 2006-2020 And then Class 3 from 2020 - now as not working abroad then. Q - Can you clarify this specific rule please? (rather than comment on the specifics of this person) Thanks

I believe HMRC are obliged by law to say that she must pay the 10 years first and once payment for that has been made (where applicable), then call them again and they can reassess her for the additional years. Interesting Q though....

2 clients who applied to pay Class 2 NICs via CF83 have not yet had any answer. However, they both separately just received a letter stating they could pay Class 2 for 2023-2024. 1 - Why would they each have got this letter recently if they had not yet got confirmation that they could pay Class 2 for past years? 2 - Is HMRC sending such letters - just for last year - as standard before sending a reply to the CF83 application given it's a new tax year? 3 - Should they wait for an answer to their CF83 application before doing anything / Is one coming? Thanks

Are you still accepting old CF83 forms? When do you plan to stop accepting them? Thanks

Thank you. If they left the UK 30 years ago, can they still get a NINO now?

I'm helping someone do CF83 who worked in UK for 3+ years but they only ever had a Temporary National (TN) Insurance number. What extra info should they provide to ensure they're found by HMRC on the system or will there be any issues with just applying with a TN? Thanks

Thank you Admin. Q - If a person has lived and worked (paying Nat Ins) in the UK for just 1 year followed immediately by 2 qualifying years of working/paying EU Social Insurance (as per NI38 guidance), how should one answer Q5 & Q6? ie: Will answering 'No' to Q5 & Q6 disqualify those who previously qualified for Class 2 as they paid EU social insurance? Q - If a person can not recall their National Insurance number, presumably their last 3 address and any additional employment details are still required to find them on your system as per NI38 Guidance?

A relative has just been told she needs to pay Class 3 NICs following the assessment of her CF83. We've checked closely and believe she fits every Class 2 eligibility criteria with 8 years of Nat Ins paid in the 1990s having been ordinarily employed in UK immediately prior to leaving and then continuous work abroad since then paying EU social insurance (evidence provided to International CaseWorker) What steps can she take to appeal this decision? Is a Mandatory Reconsideration possible?

>>> We are still accepting old style applications Thank you for clarifying. Can you please confirm that you will continue to do so up until 5 April 2025? Or if not, what's the cut-off point / where can people check whether or not you're still accepting old style applications?

Am in similar situation to Steve above. 1 - What is the HMRC cut-off DATE for NOT accepting old CF83 forms anymore? 2 - 'Has the CF83 assessment process changed?' is a critical question we need a DETAILED answer to please. 3 - If a person has lived and worked (paying Nat Ins) in the UK for just 1 year followed immediately by 2 qualifying years of working/paying EU Social Insurance (as per NI38 guidance), how should one answer Q5 & Q6? ie: Will answering 'No' to Q5 & Q6 disqualify those who previously qualified for Class 2 as they paid EU social insurance? 4 - If a person can not recall their National Insurance number, presumably their last 3 address and any additional employment details are still required to find them on your system? Thanks in advance.